Saturday, November 7, 2009

How murderous are we really?

Just after our two most recent mass shootings, I've read this New Yorker article exploring the history of murder in America. The article reviews various authors' differences of opinion on why America is more dangerous than other, roughly comparable places, but never questions the hypothesis that America is more dangerous. Weirdly, despite myself having twice been threatened with guns in America, the article made me think America may actually be safer than Europe for this reason: we have been more successful than Europe in recent decades in avoiding full-blown civil wars and politically organized massacres.

Because the law distinguishes between killings during war and killings during peacetime, so does the article. This made me wonder: what were the murder rates in, say, Germany during the 30s and 40s, Northern Ireland in the 70s and Yugoslavia in the 90s? Perhaps quite low, but this didn't make them great places to raise a family. If killings inspired or mandated by political movements were added to the deaths officially classified as homicides, creating an intentional killings rate instead of a murder rate, how would we compare then?

I remain, at best, dubious that widespread private ownership of guns is a net positive for public safety. All the evidence I've ever seen is that it's a net negative. But I do think we should ask whether the interpersonal violence that leads to a high murder rate might also somehow be protective against (or at least negatively correlated with) civil unrest.

4 comments:

  1. In the UK, where guns are not ubibiquitius, one usually murders their soon to be ex-wife or other object of scorn by stabbing them with a knife. A comparison study of per capita stabbings resulting in death between the US and UK should be done. The results of said study could be used by NRA types to throw in the face of the anti-gun lobby types, assuming the numbers can be adequately manipulated to show that knives are much more dangerous than guns.

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  2. Hey Bourbon. I think your reasoning is a bit flawed. You are addressing a specific type of killing which usually involves a motive that literally calls for stabbing. Stabbing is considered the method of killing chosen when emotions are flaring up -- as in jealousy cases, for example.
    I would argue that since it is not possible to keep the insane and violent part of the society away from the guns, the only solution would be to keep the guns locked up. There is simply no screening possible to make sure guns do end up in safe hands only.
    Sure, guns do not kill people, but gun shots sure do.

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  3. My comment was pure sarcasm, so it’s pointless to debate me. Although you’re wrong, people in the UK would shoot if they could get guns. They can’t, that’s why they stab…

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